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La versió catalana no coincideix amb el que vaig a...

2012-02-01T00:52:33.746-08:00

La versió catalana no coincideix amb el que vaig aprendre de petit, i que crec que segueix sent l'oficial:

Pare nostre, que esteu en el cel: Sigui santificat en el vostre nom. Vingui a nosaltres el vostre regne. Faci's la vostra voluntat, així a la terra com es fa en el cel. El nostre pa de cada dia, doneu-nos, Senyor, el dia d'avui. I perdoneu les nostres culpes, així com

Wonderful! Your description, however, led me to e...

2012-01-28T11:52:47.137-08:00

Wonderful! Your description, however, led me to expect a chorus of voices chanting the prayer in the eight languages simultaneously. (Obviously some adjustments of timing would be needed to keep the French synchronized with the rest, and the Romanian might have to be left out altogether.)

Anyhow, here is the Paternoster in the lost Romance language of Britain:

Nustr Padr,

I wish it was just a little slower, but I'm gl...

2012-01-16T09:15:39.599-08:00

I wish it was just a little slower, but I'm glad to find this video!

Pater noster, qui es in caelis: sanctificetur Nome...

2012-01-16T09:13:30.212-08:00

Pater noster, qui es in caelis:
sanctificetur Nomen Tuum;
adveniat Regnum Tuum;
fiat voluntas Tua,
sicut in caelo, et in terra.
Panem nostrum cotidianum da nobis hodie;
et dimitte nobis debita nostra,
sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris;
et ne nos inducas in tentationem;
sed libera nos a Malo

I'm a native Greek-speaker and I know basic Sp...

2011-12-07T12:37:12.082-08:00

I'm a native Greek-speaker and I know basic Spanish and I must say that the two languages sound extremely similar. In fact I was attracted to learn Spanish because it's probably the only foreign language in the world which I can pronounce just by using a native accent. I have many times while visiting foreign countries mistaken Spanish people for Greek people and vice versa. I think the

Excellent info! I enjoyed this post, and many of t...

2011-12-02T00:59:34.979-08:00

Excellent info! I enjoyed this post, and many of the others you've been putting out lately.

As a Romanian I find your appreciation of accent v...

2011-11-30T14:23:54.782-08:00

As a Romanian I find your appreciation of accent variety very encouraging, not all Romanians like deviations from the "standard". I am afraid though that the map is not reliable at all. As far as I know there isn't a separate (sub)dialect of Ardeal, it's just a continuum of different influences; also, the map doesn't include (my own) Crisean dialect, and I cannot even guess

You might try comparing usage in other Brazilian c...

2011-11-23T10:32:20.488-08:00

You might try comparing usage in other Brazilian coastal cities. Language has a way of morphing along trade and migration routes; coastal commerce has historically propagated rapid change elsewhere, so the Rio connection may be prevalent along the coast.

Moldovenii nu vorbesc cu 'amu'. :)) Asta-i...

2011-11-05T11:07:51.535-07:00

Moldovenii nu vorbesc cu 'amu'. :)) Asta-i mai degrabă folosită în Ardealu' meu drag şi scump.

Foarte tare, sarawr. LOL. I had to look it up mys...

2011-10-21T13:39:46.124-07:00

Foarte tare, sarawr. LOL.

I had to look it up myself to see which one was right. :P

don't forget about 'nu stiu de astea'-...

2011-10-20T11:31:05.058-07:00

don't forget about 'nu stiu de astea'--romanians love that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9F7FuAAATA

eclipse: Frumos. Îmi place. Îmi amintește de fadou...

2011-10-14T15:40:19.575-07:00

eclipse: Frumos. Îmi place. Îmi amintește de fadoul portughez ! :)

diacritica: Îi ascult pe ei în acest moment. Și, vas-y, draga. Aștept lista. :P

Vă mulțumesc de recomandări.

Pfuai, da' un Cătălin Crişan când asculţi?! Un...

2011-10-14T02:53:59.795-07:00

Pfuai, da' un Cătălin Crişan când asculţi?! Un Dan Spătaru? O Angela Similea? :)
(Dacă vrei, îţi fac o listă din anii 70-80.)

Foarte frumos dar ce zici de o voce curată și frum...

2011-10-14T00:27:34.925-07:00

Foarte frumos dar ce zici de o voce curată și frumoasă ca cea a Mariei Răducanu?
În caz că n-ai ascultat-o până acum iată și dovada. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ex0MQt86Zo

Very interesting, Martin! Thank you for that. Con...

2011-10-13T15:57:49.229-07:00

Very interesting, Martin! Thank you for that.

Considering ştire (and derivatives) comes from the Latin SCIRE, şcii may be a remnant pronunciation of an earlier ştii which still exists today in some regions.

Ex.
Ştiu comes directly from SCIO in Latin.

As for "privim televizorul", a similar phenomeon exists in Spanish. For

The same accent which Diacritica is signaling can ...

2011-10-13T00:11:41.733-07:00

The same accent which Diacritica is signaling can be found in the Banat region, also with slavic influences (from Serbian). They say "şcii" instead of "ştii", for example, or "miere" instead of "mere". And a funny one: they -- those from Moldavia -- say exactly "watch TV" ("privim televizorul"), not "looking at TV" as Romanian

[Îți voi răspunde în engleză, Dia] Very interesti...

2011-10-08T23:44:31.696-07:00

[Îți voi răspunde în engleză, Dia]

Very interesting and funny post you linked to. You could pretty much replace Romania and Moldova with any two countries where the same language is spoken. It happens often with the US and the UK, elevator vs lift; apartment vs flat, etc.

And indeed, it's evident the Moldovan broadcasters are influenced by the Romanian standard. Like you

Nu mai ştiu dacă am scris pe aici sau doar am avut...

2011-10-08T22:11:06.666-07:00

Nu mai ştiu dacă am scris pe aici sau doar am avut de gând să. Accentul din Republica Moldova (Moldova de peste Prut / Basarabia) e sensibil diferit de accentul din Moldova astălaltă. Influenţa rusească se simte în pronunţie (l e pronunţat ruseşte). (Colega mea Elena, basarabeancă, pronunţă un fel de "cib" pentru TIB - Târgul Internaţional Bucureşti. Mă rog, un fel de t moale.) Apoi,

Let's also remember (in decreasing order of po...

2011-10-08T17:51:47.722-07:00

Let's also remember (in decreasing order of population) the Aromanians of Greece, Albania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Turkey, and Romania itself; the Megleno-Romanian speakers in Greece, the FYROM, Turkey and Romania; the